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New laws coming?

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:24 pm
by BamBam
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The Home Office will consult on legislative proposals to restrict the online sale of knives so they cannot be delivered to a private residential address and must instead be collected at a place where age ID can be checked.

Other measures included in the consultation include:

amendments to threatening with a knife or offensive weapon offence to lower the standard of proof for prosecutors

moving two firearms (.50 calibre and certain rapid firing rifles) from the general licensing arrangements to the stricter provisions of section 5 of the Firearms Act 1968

updating the current legislation on the definition of flick knives

Re: New laws coming?

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:32 pm
by ovenpaa
We were just talking about this today. It will be interesting to see what comes of it and what the consider to be rapid firing as a competatnt shooter can probably get off 30 aimed shots in a minute with a bolt action rifle and a reasonable under lever can be quick.

Re: New laws coming?

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:32 pm
by GeeRam
Hmmmmm.........

I wonder what 'certain rapid firing rifles' mean..........lever release?


Was this (and the .50 cal going to Sect 5) on the cards (rumoured previously) or a bolt out of the blue...?

:bad:

Re: New laws coming?

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:40 pm
by bnz41
"Moving two firearms (.50 calibre and certain rapid firing rifles) from the general licensing arrangements to the stricter provisions of section 5 of the Firearms Act 1968"


rapid firing rifles, that could be anything if the firer is good enough. Would the owners of such rifles be able to apply for section 5 to continue to shoot them or is this they will be banned.

Re: New laws coming?

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:58 pm
by meles meles
If the existing provisions of causing grievous bodily harm were enforced then there would be no need for an anti-acid law. But then they couldn't appear to be thinking of the children, be seen to be doing something, and slip other legislation in through the back door.*





*Badgers are not by nature cynical kreechers, but experience suggests that when dealing with politicians it is wise to drink upstream

Re: New laws coming?

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:28 pm
by Dark Skies
Amber Rudd is another imbecile with one eye on May's job and prepared to proffer all sorts of 'tough on crime' bo...cks to further her profile.

She has a number of disturbing and disproportionate measures up her sleeve with which to wow the gullible.

"people who repeatedly view terrorist content online could face up to 15 years behind bars in a move designed to tighten the laws tackling radicalisation the home secretary"

There are a number of perfectly valid reasons why people should be free to view this content uninhibited.
To keep informed
Research
Journalism

And fifteen years for merely having passively viewed something? And who determines what constitutes terrorist content - where's the threshold?

And whilst making the world 'safer' this silly cow wants software companies to deliberately introduce back doors into encryption - because, obviously, no hackers or ner-do-wells could ever make use of said back doors and rob our bank accounts blind or pinch our identities, or take control of on-line commerce, or hold services to ransom.

"amendments to threatening with a knife or offensive weapon offence to lower the standard of proof for prosecutors"
Alarm bells should always ring whenever some greasy politician wants to meddle with / lower the burden of proof.
Remember how they mangled the right to silence and coupled it to inference of guilt if you clung to the quaint notion of it being the job of the prosecution to make out a case?

Pretty soon I expect to see invading someone's 'safe space' as a crime with some over the top sentence to go with it.

Why the fixation on .50 caliber? Is being hit by lsub .50 considered 'safe' then?
Has there been a rise in .50 or 'certain rapid firing rifles' being used in armed crime then?
I wonder if they'll be daft enough to include .50 black powder pistols too?

We're right on the cusp of Brexit. We have a very shaky PM in charge of a very shaky government full to brimming with imbeciles and incompetents and THIS is what the cretins fixate on?

Re: New laws coming?

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:15 pm
by Gazza
Polititians and their handlers have caused more death and destruction than anything........ EVER!
When will they be banned, jailed etc?

Re: New laws coming?

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:25 pm
by BamBam
https://www.facebook.com/amberruddofficial/

Make your views heard on her face ache page, even if you just add a thumbs up to a statement made by others, I'm sure her social media manager will eventually show her...

Re: New laws coming?

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:17 pm
by SevenSixTwo
Tories, huh?...

Re: New laws coming?

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:36 pm
by Sixshot6
SevenSixTwo wrote:Tories, huh?...
When did they ever act conservative other than the odd bone throwing or be anything other than the other side of the coin of the opposite shower of excrement?