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Which monitored alarm ?
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:09 pm
by breacher
Just going through my application for RFD and I will need a monitored alarm.
Any of the companies better than the others ?
Any to avoid ?
Re: Which monitored alarm ?
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:28 pm
by Sim G
Does the monitored alarm system have to be monitored by a company? Some excellent systems will alert you and whatever other phone number you program into it. Our system at the club will ring committee members one at a time until it’s answered. The police are happy with this and we hold a lot of Guns and ammo...
As an aside, back when I was policing on division, three false alarm call outs from a monitored company and we wouldn’t attend. Given the state of fire brigade policing now, and the back log of even immediate rated calls, who will thus company call if the police won’t or can’t attend? You.
Get some research done and submit a rationale for not having a company monitor. The money saved in the first year will allow a cracking system to be installed!
Re: Which monitored alarm ?
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:34 pm
by breacher
Sim G wrote:Does the monitored alarm system have to be monitored by a company? Some excellent systems will alert you and whatever other phone number you program into it. Our system at the club will ring committee members one at a time until it’s answered. The police are happy with this and we hold a lot of Guns and ammo...
As an aside, back when I was policing on division, three false alarm call outs from a monitored company and we wouldn’t attend. Given the state of fire brigade policing now, and the back log of even immediate rated calls, who will thus company call if the police won’t or can’t attend? You.
Get some research done and submit a rationale for not having a company monitor. The money saved in the first year will allow a cracking system to be installed!
Just had my interview and "monitored" was stated - with no preference on company etc - will e-mail to clarify.
Re: Which monitored alarm ?
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:51 pm
by Gh0st
breacher wrote:Sim G wrote:Does the monitored alarm system have to be monitored by a company? Some excellent systems will alert you and whatever other phone number you program into it. Our system at the club will ring committee members one at a time until it’s answered. The police are happy with this and we hold a lot of Guns and ammo...
As an aside, back when I was policing on division, three false alarm call outs from a monitored company and we wouldn’t attend. Given the state of fire brigade policing now, and the back log of even immediate rated calls, who will thus company call if the police won’t or can’t attend? You.
Get some research done and submit a rationale for not having a company monitor. The money saved in the first year will allow a cracking system to be installed!
Just had my interview and "monitored" was stated - with no preference on company etc - will e-mail to clarify.
Most monitored alarms go through a call centre anyway to screen false alarms.
But 3 strikes would usually get taken off the immediate response. However they would have RFD on file so i am pretty sure you would get a priority response.
Re: Which monitored alarm ?
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:17 pm
by Yogibear
Definitely check whether a company has to monitor it. Some forces are happy for them to be monitored by yourself.
In these modern times there are many good alarms which can be monitored by telephone calls, text message, push notifications to apps etc. with intruder verification by audio or IP camera etc etc
If you need it monitored by a company, you will be paying good money to have it installed and then a monthly charge forever more. If you can DIY the install and monitor it yourself, then you are laughing.
Re: Which monitored alarm ?
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:20 pm
by Racalman
Yogibear wrote:If you can DIY the install and monitor it yourself, then you are laughing.
That's what I did (although I'm not an RFD). I added one of these to give the monitoring facility:
https://www.adventcontrols.co.uk/produc ... lar-alarms
If you do fit a system yourself, make sure the installation complies with BS EN 50131.
Re: Which monitored alarm ?
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:27 pm
by dodgyrog
I just had one put in before my RFD annual check.
A local (reputable) firm from Newcastle did it.
£700 including first year's monitoring fee and 6 month servicing
To be fair they used the exisistng sensors and wiring except for a pet friendle one in the kitchen and just put in their own box. They also fitted a GSM (I think that's the term) as well as the land line link.
Delighted with their work and attention to detail.
I had a couple of hiccups which were attended to immediately-
That's a bit of a guide for you to ponder on.
Re: Which monitored alarm ?
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:46 pm
by 25Pdr
I got one like this...It phones up to three people....What more does one need?
https://www.alzproducts.co.uk/telephone ... autodialer
Re: Which monitored alarm ?
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:28 am
by ovenpaa
Go for whoever you feel comfortable with and remember you should need a minimum of a grade 3 system which should mean fully wired, different sensors and control box, fobs etc. However it is worth discussing it with your insurers to confirm. Beware the alarm company taking short cuts with offerings of hybrid and wireless systems. Oh and beware the local CPO as he may well suggest things that are unattainable.
Also, make sure your police force will issue an ERN which is GBP60.00 or you will never see a police response.
I much prefer Dualcom over Redcare for monitoring comms and make sure you pay for connectivity checks every 60 seconds as opposed to every 24 hours.
Re: Which monitored alarm ?
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:14 am
by breacher
Ovenpaa wrote:Go for whoever you feel comfortable with and remember you should need a minimum of a grade 3 system which should mean fully wired, different sensors and control box, fobs etc. However it is worth discussing it with your insurers to confirm. Beware the alarm company taking short cuts with offerings of hybrid and wireless systems. Oh and beware the local CPO as he may well suggest things that are unattainable.
Also, make sure your police force will issue an ERN which is GBP60.00 or you will never see a police response.
I much prefer Dualcom over Redcare for monitoring comms and make sure you pay for connectivity checks every 60 seconds as opposed to every 24 hours.
