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Different rules in Scotland or Police Scotland making it up?
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:54 pm
by walesdave
On the back of Practical shooters' post about Police Scotland I thought I'd have a poke about their website
https://www.scotland.police.uk/about-us ... -shotguns/ - I'm meant to be working so anything to divert myself
Anyway, I found this comment to be interesting....." a firearm or shotgun will be granted to an individual who is assessed by the Police as not posing a threat to public safety or the peace and having good reason to own the firearm or shotgun" especially the "good reason to own the [...] shotgun" bit.
As far as I know, only Sec1 needs a 'good reason' or are thing different in 'All air guns are evil' Scotland?
Re: Different rules in Scotland or Police Scotland making it
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:54 pm
by IainWR
You need a good reason to own shotguns in general, but not a good reason for each shotgun. However, the "good reason" requirement for shotguns is so heavily qualified in law (I have heard because the politician that introduced it hadn't figured that without qualification he'd have to hand in daddy's Purdeys) that it might as well not exist.
Re: Different rules in Scotland or Police Scotland making it
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:43 am
by Pippin89
IainWR wrote:You need a good reason to own shotguns in general, but not a good reason for each shotgun.
I didn't think that was the case. From what I understood, anyone can own a shotgun. I'm sure someone said you could buy a shotgun, stick it in a cabinet and never shoot it... Of course in reality, FEO's would always want to know why you want one. Think someone on here said they told their FEO it was none of their business when they asked.
Re: Different rules in Scotland or Police Scotland making it
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:36 am
by IainWR
Pippin89 wrote:IainWR wrote:You need a good reason to own shotguns in general, but not a good reason for each shotgun.
I didn't think that was the case. From what I understood, anyone can own a shotgun. I'm sure someone said you could buy a shotgun, stick it in a cabinet and never shoot it... Of course in reality, FEO's would always want to know why you want one. Think someone on here said they told their FEO it was none of their business when they asked.
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1968/27/section/28
See sub-sections 1A and 1B
Re: Different rules in Scotland or Police Scotland making it
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:05 am
by Andy632
IainWR wrote:Pippin89 wrote:IainWR wrote:You need a good reason to own shotguns in general, but not a good reason for each shotgun.
I didn't think that was the case. From what I understood, anyone can own a shotgun. I'm sure someone said you could buy a shotgun, stick it in a cabinet and never shoot it... Of course in reality, FEO's would always want to know why you want one. Think someone on here said they told their FEO it was none of their business when they asked.
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1968/27/section/28
See sub-sections 1A and 1B
1b is crystal clear, isn't it!
[F1(1)Subject to subsection (1A) below, a shot gun certificate shall be granted or, as the case may be, renewed by the chief officer of police if he is satisfied that the applicant can be permitted to possess a shot gun without danger to the public safety or to the peace.
(1A)No such certificate shall be granted or renewed if the chief officer of police—
(a)has reason to believe that the applicant is prohibited by this Act from possessing a shot gun; or
(b)is satisfied that the applicant does not have a good reason for possessing, purchasing or acquiring one.
(1B)For the purposes of paragraph (b) of subsection (1A) above an applicant shall, in particular, be regarded as having a good reason if the gun is intended to be used for sporting or competition purposes or for shooting vermin;
and an application shall not be refused by virtue of that paragraph merely because the applicant intends neither to use the gun himself nor to lend it for anyone else to use.
Re: Different rules in Scotland or Police Scotland making it
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:20 pm
by Pippin89
Andy632 beat me to it. You must have a valid reason but an application must not be refused if you don't have one...
Re: Different rules in Scotland or Police Scotland making it
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:01 pm
by IainWR
Pippin89 wrote:Andy632 beat me to it. You must have a valid reason but an application must not be refused if you don't have one...
Told you it might as well not exist ... :)
Re: Different rules in Scotland or Police Scotland making it
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:15 pm
by Pippin89
IainWR wrote:Pippin89 wrote:Andy632 beat me to it. You must have a valid reason but an application must not be refused if you don't have one...
Told you it might as well not exist ... :)
That you did!