well im annoyed

[Jackmanuk]

nope whats the point it seems no one noes anything , my mum cant remember if she ever saw a warrant card or not , il wait for my FEO to ring me and see what he says

[zanes]

See my post on your other thread

+1.

[Gaz]

right so i have had a call back form the FLU and they say they need to book a routine inspection and will call me today or tomorrow, meanwhile i still cant hold of this Prevent team i just goes strait to answer phone, now iv never called 999 but does that go to answer phone as well since i seem you cant get through to any police other wise, either way im not going to bother any more and im not leaving a message it cant be that important since both the cards they left me are wrong

If I was in your position I'd be beefing up my anti-burglar defences and notifying the FLU (by email if they won't answer the phone?) that you may been targeted by fraudsters posing as police officers trying to gain access to your firearms.

Phone numbers that don't work as advertised/don't go to the person they're supposedly for = very, very bad news.

I'd also seriously get your guns to an RFD ASAP - before either the real police or your mystery visitors come back.

[Blackstuff]

It has always been my understanding that an appointment is ALWAYS made at a mutually convienent time for such an inspection, even the 'random' ones. If it was a proper 'knock' from the CTU i doubt they would have left empty handed, or at least not waited until you got home. Scary stuff indeed

[NoEntry]

the safe is a combo lock so no trouble with keys , they turned up in marked cop cars which is all i need to draw attention from the neighbours

Bit of a clue as to whether or not they were burglars.

That being said the Police have no automatic right of access to "examine" anything at all.

They can enter under the terms of a warrant, any other time is with the consent of the householder.

Mike

[HALODIN]

Why not e-mail the 2 addresses on those 2 business cards? If they're fictitious addresses you'll probably get a bounce back which would be a telling sign.

[Jenks]

I don't believe what I have just read. I know what I would do. I would send an e-mail to your chief constable demanding an explanation cc to the home office and your local M.P.

Jenks

[rox]

i called both numbers on the cards and neither go to the person in question

Maybe they've had to divert their phones since their contact details were published on the Internet.

I suggest you start being a lot more discrete. Your posts showing-off how much ammo you have were accompanied by photos that could help someone defeat your security. Now you've also broadcast detailed information about officers/staff who came to visit you, which could be used to build a compelling cover story by people with bad intentions (which might be used against others, not just you). Home office guidelines suggest that cabinets are located where they are not visible from the street - what is the point of that if you shout from the virtual rooftops exactly what you have, where it is, how it is secured etc etc.

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[DW58]

Either there's a very bad smell attached to this or there has been a very serious breakdown of procedures.

[Gaz]

i called both numbers on the cards and neither go to the person in question

Maybe they've had to divert their phones since their contact details were published on the Internet.

I suggest you start being a lot more discrete. Your posts showing-off how much ammo you have were accompanied by photos that could help someone defeat your security. Now you've also broadcast detailed information about officers/staff who came to visit you, which could be used to build a compelling cover story by people with bad intentions (which might be used against others, not just you). Home office guidelines suggest that cabinets are located where they are not visible from the street - what is the point of that if you shout from the virtual rooftops exactly what you have, where it is, how it is secured etc etc.

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Erm...

Unless I've missed some other pics (in which case ignore all that follows!), the ones of Jackmanuk's ammo safe merely show the safe itself and its contents: not its location within the house, or for that matter the house itself. You can easily see the inside of any British Standard-compliant gunsafe by, er, browsing the manufacturer's website, in most (if not all) cases. Defeating the physical security of the safe is a simple matter of reading the manufacturer's specs and/or the BS itself and equipping yourself appropriately. It's certainly no secret that all firearms and ammo must be installed within a BS-compliant cabinet.

As for the Beds "prevent engagement" constables: their department certainly exists, even if the individuals claiming to be police officers aren't kosher. If anything, by posting those details Jackmanuk's done the rest of us a favour: if anyone now rocks up on our doorsteps claiming to be from a murky counter-terror unit and demanding all manner of things without a warrant, we know to f*** them off at the high port and call the real police ASAP. He's alerted us to a very real security (and indeed liberty) threat.

I find it inconceivable (but not entirely unbelievable) that two constables could set out to entrap an FAC holder's family into admitting a serious criminal offence without someone else in the police department responsible for those matters at least being aware of what they'd set off to do, and the force FLD not knowing anything about a visit rings huge alarm bells for me.