Dragunov update

[froggy]

Simply awesome ! It really looks great .
Good job Tovarich

[Maggot]

Nice.

I have to say I have never seen one that shoots well, but I suspect that was down to ignorance on behalf of the owner and a lack of homework.

We were taking these out of the wrappers in Iraq, if only I had known then..... emrolleyes

I had a DSHK (is that right) breech block as a souvenir but bottled it

A week or so I was lucky enough to finally shoot a Mosin sniper rifle (no idea if the scope was pukka but the owner is into his oldies). I was pleasantly surprised, although I felt it shot better unsupported.

Keep it up but lay off the Vodka.....I drunk it once, with a Russian....bad mistake and took 3 days to shake off the hangover and clean up the mess/damage clapclap

[techguy]

That is gorgeous :)

[snayperskaya]

Nice.

I have to say I have never seen one that shoots well, but I suspect that was down to ignorance on behalf of the owner and a lack of homework.

We were taking these out of the wrappers in Iraq, if only I had known then..... emrolleyes

I had a DSHK (is that right) breech block as a souvenir but bottled it

A week or so I was lucky enough to finally shoot a Mosin sniper rifle (no idea if the scope was pukka but the owner is into his oldies). I was pleasantly surprised, although I felt it shot better unsupported.

Keep it up but lay off the Vodka.....I drunk it once, with a Russian....bad mistake and took 3 days to shake off the hangover and clean up the mess/damage clapclap

Were the ones in Iraq Soviet Dragunovs or the Iraqi version, the Al-Kadesih?.

The lack of accuracy thing tends to come from the use of poor ammunition.The Russians had a dedicated sniper round, the 7n1 and later the 7n14, which are pretty much match ammo and very accurate.There are strict accuracy requirements set out for the Dragunov and if they couldnt be met the rifle was rejected or sent to the repair shop.

Ammunition I have tried;

1977 Novosibirsk 150gr - pretty good for standard ammo,around 2 moa
Hungarian LPS light ball 148gr - very good for milsurp, around 1.5 moa
Hungarian yellow tip heavy ball 180gr - very good, nice and punchy
Barnaul 180gr commercial- very inconsistent and awful groups
Sellier&Bellot 174gr brass-cased - very good cloverleaf three rounds at 100m

I've got some PPU to try but I find the 77 Novosibirsk milsurp does the job on the targets at Sennybridge consistently out to 700m and it is the round that the BDC turret on the PSO-1 scope is calibrated for.

[Maggot]

Nice.

I have to say I have never seen one that shoots well, but I suspect that was down to ignorance on behalf of the owner and a lack of homework.

We were taking these out of the wrappers in Iraq, if only I had known then..... emrolleyes

I had a DSHK (is that right) breech block as a souvenir but bottled it

A week or so I was lucky enough to finally shoot a Mosin sniper rifle (no idea if the scope was pukka but the owner is into his oldies). I was pleasantly surprised, although I felt it shot better unsupported.

Keep it up but lay off the Vodka.....I drunk it once, with a Russian....bad mistake and took 3 days to shake off the hangover and clean up the mess/damage clapclap

Were the ones in Iraq Soviet Dragunovs or the Iraqi version, the Al-Kadesih?.

The lack of accuracy thing tends to come from the use of poor ammunition.The Russians had a dedicated sniper round, the 7n1 and later the 7n14, which are pretty much match ammo and very accurate.There are strict accuracy requirements set out for the Dragunov and if they couldnt be met the rifle was rejected or sent to the repair shop.

Ammunition I have tried;

1977 Novosibirsk 150gr - pretty good for standard ammo,around 2 moa
Hungarian LPS light ball 148gr - very good for milsurp, around 1.5 moa
Hungarian yellow tip heavy ball 180gr - very good, nice and punchy
Barnaul 180gr commercial- very inconsistent and awful groups
Sellier&Bellot 174gr brass-cased - very good cloverleaf three rounds at 100m

I've got some PPU to try but I find the 77 Novosibirsk milsurp does the job on the targets at Sennybridge consistently out to 700m and it is the round that the BDC turret on the PSO-1 scope is calibrated for.

Interesting, to be honest I dont have a scooby, there was so much of it about, wish I had grabbed scopes and noen FAC bits but hindsight and all that

[snayperskaya]

Another thing that gives the Dragunov a bad name is that in the States the Romanian PSL is sold as a "Dragunov" but is infact a beefed up AK action chambered in 54r and shares no parts with a true Dragunov.The operating system between a Dragunov (short stroke similar to the FAL) and an AK/PSL (long stroke) are completely different and the PSL has a stamped steel receiver as opposed to the Dragunov which is milled.The differences mean the PSL is no more accurate than your average AK but the true Dragunov gets tarred with the same brush as most Yanks have never seen one let alone shot one.

[froggy]

Tovarich Snayperskaya and his mates having a bit of a spring clean.



They thought it was a bit "gay" & still don't know why they did it ...