Might be a box fed mag shotgun where the mags actually work out the box - pfah! Those mags do in fact look just like the Bora / MKA1919 5 round mags though........
With both being subject to 24"/40" rule - then the bullpup could end up needing a 30" barrel to comply with overall length maybe?
The top shotgun looks a little like a G36 and AR15 with a hint of AK at the front - I think I'd go for the bullpup if it ever made it over (s*** trigger be damned!)
Might be a box fed mag shotgun where the mags actually work out the box - pfah! Those mags do in fact look just like the Bora / MKA1919 5 round mags though........
With both being subject to 24"/40" rule - then the bullpup could end up needing a 30" barrel to comply with overall length maybe?
The top shotgun looks a little like a G36 and AR15 with a hint of AK at the front - I think I'd go for the bullpup if it ever made it over (s*** trigger be damned!)
Very nice. Looks reliable enough on youtube vids. I enquired on their facebook page if the full length version will be made with a 24" barrel. Didn't hear owt back.
$900 dollars over there probably equates to £3000 by the time one made it here...
Blackstuff wrote:Problem is their looks and handling characteristics get ruined by our stupid barrel/OAL rules
Aye that's why the Bullpup interests me, my Bora 99 is quite front endy (FB lower on it also) and my Mossberg with the mag tube extension is even worse when fully "bombed up". With the action being further back in the stock I'd expect the weight to shift rearward noticeably and the front to become a lot more "pointable".
Eyeballing the bullpup up I think I'm not far off with the 30" barrel guesstimate, but what really interests me is the hoped for build quality improvement as compared to the Bora / Akdal.
Never can understand why if the cowboy action shooters can get a barrel length exemption why PSG couldn't have one as well? If it had been negotiated at the same time as the mag capacity rules?
Like most of our anachronistic firearms law it makes little sense, another case of the law abiding obeying the law.
Laverda981 wrote:Never can understand why if the cowboy action shooters can get a barrel length exemption why PSG couldn't have one as well? If it had been negotiated at the same time as the mag capacity rules?
Like most of our anachronistic firearms law it makes little sense, another case of the law abiding obeying the law.
If you mean in terms of lever-action shotguns not being subject to the 40" OAL restriction that pumps and semis are, I seriously doubt that was ever down to any kind of exemption or negotiation. More like the people writing the rules didn't even think there was such a thing in existence so didn't add it to the list.
Laverda981 wrote:Never can understand why if the cowboy action shooters can get a barrel length exemption why PSG couldn't have one as well? If it had been negotiated at the same time as the mag capacity rules?
Like most of our anachronistic firearms law it makes little sense, another case of the law abiding obeying the law.
If you mean in terms of lever-action shotguns not being subject to the 40" OAL restriction that pumps and semis are, I seriously doubt that was ever down to any kind of exemption or negotiation. More like the people writing the rules didn't even think there was such a thing in existence so didn't add it to the list.
Double barrelled guns as well as lever action can be sub 24" (for Cowboy action shooting for eg) whereas pumps and semis must always be 24" plus.
But yeah - it'll be by ommission rather than any kind of foresight.
Laverda981 wrote:Never can understand why if the cowboy action shooters can get a barrel length exemption why PSG couldn't have one as well? If it had been negotiated at the same time as the mag capacity rules?
Like most of our anachronistic firearms law it makes little sense, another case of the law abiding obeying the law.
If you mean in terms of lever-action shotguns not being subject to the 40" OAL restriction that pumps and semis are, I seriously doubt that was ever down to any kind of exemption or negotiation. More like the people writing the rules didn't even think there was such a thing in existence so didn't add it to the list.
No, I thought the dressing-up as cowboys crowd were allowed 20" barrels on their side-by-side shotguns?...
Technically you're allowed a double barreled gun with a 12" barrel as long as its also 24" in overall length! The 20" barrel length thing is something within the cowboy action shooting rules, not the legislation.
I suppose in 1987 when they were dreaming up this guff they thought that a shotgun with a magazine obeying the 24/40" rule (well a semi or pump, but not a lever-action ) was as equally 'dangerous' as a double-barreled gun obeying the 12/24" rule.
) was as equally 'dangerous' as a double-barreled gun obeying the 12/24" rule.