Permanently attached suppressors ?

[breacher]

Yeah I forgot Brian, anyone you don't like isn't allowed an opinion and has to keep quiet.

Do you have any opinion on a sec5 dealer using woodscrews to fit a gun cabinet to a wall ?

[Rarms]

the original A1 device was a Flash Hider, the A2 (missing holes at the bottom) is a compensator as per the original drawings, it is manufactured as such. Not a flash hider.

Every day is a school day!!! :)

[joe]

Tell you what - try calling me a Chicken - maybe that might work ?

Your "quiz" had nothing to do with my stating that a componant has in its own right, no minimum length requirement.

It was nice here, with us all offering our opinions and agreeing to differ. Then you arrived, all ego and frustration.

I repeat the same question:

How can the manufacture of a Sec5aba component be controlled if said component doesn't exist until assembled? A short barrel Sec5aba IS a component part of a Sec5aba firearm and in itself a prohibited weapon.

c. under section 5 of the 1968 Act, it is an offence for a person to possess, purchase,
acquire, MANUFACTURE, sell, transfer, possess for sale or transfer, or purchase or acquire
for sale or transfer, a component part of a prohibited weapon without the authority of
the Secretary of State for the Home Department or by Scottish Ministers in Scotland.

[joe]

the original A1 device was a Flash Hider, the A2 (missing holes at the bottom) is a compensator as per the original drawings, it is manufactured as such. Not a flash hider.

Every day is a school day!!! :)

I disgree, the a2 was designed not to have any holes at the bottom, so as to prevent the hot gases from kicking up sand and dust when the shooter is firing from the prone position. This type is seen on many other weapons today , including AKs, SIG etc

[breacher]

the original A1 device was a Flash Hider, the A2 (missing holes at the bottom) is a compensator as per the original drawings, it is manufactured as such. Not a flash hider.

Every day is a school day!!! :)

I disgree....................

[breacher]

Well Joe - opinion seems divided on the actual intention of the change in design from A1 to A2. Many agree with you.

And here is one retailer who seems to regard the A2 as a flash hider.........

[BamBam]

Well Joe - opinion seems divided on the actual intention of the change in design from A1 to A2. Many agree with you.

And here is one retailer who seems to regard the A2 as a flash hider.........

What do DPMS themselves call it?

http://www.dpmsinc.com/A2-Compensator_p_600.html

[BamBam]

CMMG has them cheap.

https://www.cmmginc.com/shop/compensator-a2-12-28/

[breacher]

A quick look at the US forums and the consensus is "Never mind what its design was intended for - call it whatever is legal in your state".

There are even for sale threads where the seller is asked if he would not mind changing the title on the receipt.

And opinion is divided on what was intended.........

Was it "We need a flash hider which still hides flash but which does not throw up dust"

Or was it "We no longer need a flash hider - flash is no longer a problem. Make us a compensator instead"

Without a look at the original spec request, I guess we will never know.

My guess is it was the former. Any compensation effect was a welcome bonus.




Getting back to the UK - Southern Gun, parabellum consulting and NWCP call them flash hiders.

[TattooedGun]

Just came across this enlightening document from the BASC in relation to questions from earlier in this thread, regarding component parts that are not currently listed in legislation. Apparently this has been identified in the Policing and Crime Act 2017.

Bottom of the first page.

https://basc.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/ ... ng-Web.pdf

Component parts defined
The component part of a firearm which is subject to licencing is defined for the first time as follows;

“barrel, chamber or cylinder, a frame, body or receiver, a breech block, bolt or other mechanism for containing the pressure of discharge at the rear of a chamber – but only where the item is capable of being used as a part of a lethal barrelled weapon or a prohibited weapon.”

2 This amendment removes any doubt as to the status of other parts by defining finished major components. This does not apply to the components of a shotgun, just a Section 1 firearm.
This results in no change for the shooting community as it enshrines current practice based on the Firearms Consultative Committee recommendations contained in its 9th annual report