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Re: Muzzle breaks

#11 Post by Alpha1 »

The guy I was shooting next to on Saturday was using a short barreled .308 with a muzzle brake.
It was painfull every time he pulled the trigger my head hurt. I moved onto another firing point in the end.
But not before I told him what I thought and were to fit his .308. LOL
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Alpha1 wrote:The guy I was shooting next to on Saturday was using a short barreled .308 with a muzzle brake.
It was painfull every time he pulled the trigger my head hurt. I moved onto another firing point in the end.
But not before I told him what I thought and were to fit his .308. LOL

that is anti social, I must admit I prefer shooting with my moderator on to be more social, I must have been lucky with people shooting MB's on the lane next to me as it was loud but not too bad.
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Alpha1 wrote:The guy I was shooting next to on Saturday was using a short barreled .308 with a muzzle brake.
It was painfull every time he pulled the trigger my head hurt. I moved onto another firing point in the end.
But not before I told him what I thought and were to fit his .308. LOL
The purpose of a muzzle brake is to reduce 'felt recoil' for the shooter. The rifle is a little more pleasant to shoot if you are 'recoil shy' but, it also permits more rapid follow-up shots - if that's required.

A sound-moderator does the same but also reduces noise. But, the effects of it heating up may be disadvantageous - which is why you rarely see them on comp. guns.

Neither will make a rifle more accurate - unless it is abysmally inaccurate. Then, the addition of a 'weight' on the end of the barrel can sometimes alter the harmonics favorably.

Honestly, if shooting next to a brake is making your head hurt you need better hearing protection. Brakes are widely used in some comps and we all accept that as part of the game.
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#14 Post by TattooedGun »

The Gun Pimp wrote: The purpose of a muzzle brake is to reduce 'felt recoil' for the shooter. The rifle is a little more pleasant to shoot if you are 'recoil shy' but, it also permits more rapid follow-up shots - if that's required.
In this country, there's no real need for rapid follow up shots. Or rather, we cannot make rapid follow up shots given that we need to manipulate the bolt or press a lever or some other such manipulation that has more effect to our firing position than the recoil.
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TattooedGun wrote:
The Gun Pimp wrote: The purpose of a muzzle brake is to reduce 'felt recoil' for the shooter. The rifle is a little more pleasant to shoot if you are 'recoil shy' but, it also permits more rapid follow-up shots - if that's required.
In this country, there's no real need for rapid follow up shots. Or rather, we cannot make rapid follow up shots given that we need to manipulate the bolt or press a lever or some other such manipulation that has more effect to our firing position than the recoil.
You ain't never shot (or seen) 600/1000 yard benchrest - five shots in 12 to 15 seconds with a boly-gun is what I'd call 'rapid'.
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#16 Post by TattooedGun »

The Gun Pimp wrote:
TattooedGun wrote:
The Gun Pimp wrote: The purpose of a muzzle brake is to reduce 'felt recoil' for the shooter. The rifle is a little more pleasant to shoot if you are 'recoil shy' but, it also permits more rapid follow-up shots - if that's required.
In this country, there's no real need for rapid follow up shots. Or rather, we cannot make rapid follow up shots given that we need to manipulate the bolt or press a lever or some other such manipulation that has more effect to our firing position than the recoil.
You ain't never shot (or seen) 600/1000 yard benchrest - five shots in 12 to 15 seconds with a boly-gun is what I'd call 'rapid'.
Whilst that is rapid, a muzzle break is still not necessary unless you've got a particularly light rifle.

Most of the benchrest rifles I've seen don't need a muzzle break because of the sheer mass of rifle/stock negating the recoil.

My opinion (It's free and you don't have to agree, or take it): The only real justifications in this country I can see for a muzzle break (Not that we need to justify it) would be to keep the sights on target to watch for bullet trace/impact or to reduce recoil - where weight is a factor. Both of which can be accomplished with a suppressor/moderator and are much more neighbour friendly, albeit at a cost of weight.
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#17 Post by Daryll »

My Mossberg MVP LC .308 came with a muzzle brake as standard, but it was anti social to those shooting either side.. or even further down the line.
I've now gone to a Moderator to be more social with the same reduction in felt recoil.

I don't think that better hearing protection is the answer to muzzle brakes causing problems... I think its actually the concussive blast that makes peoples heads hurt, rather than the actual noise.
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#18 Post by s.stimson »

By the sound of it we will all be using mod's and shooting sub sonic ammo because the little darlings' lugs are a little sensitive. Personally I have a muzzle break on my 300wm and my 6.5x47 if you don't like it then you are free to move; i put up with things that interfere with my shooting without bleating perhaps other shooters should try the same.
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#19 Post by dromia »

There is absolutely no way I shall be fitting moderators or muzzle brakes to my collection of classic firearms.
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#20 Post by TattooedGun »

s.stimson wrote:By the sound of it we will all be using mod's and shooting sub sonic ammo because the little darlings' lugs are a little sensitive. Personally I have a muzzle break on my 300wm and my 6.5x47 if you don't like it then you are free to move; i put up with things that interfere with my shooting without bleating perhaps other shooters should try the same.
I think people like you should be made to lie beside your own rifle being blasted 15-20 times whilst you're trying to shoot competitively and see if you're still of the same opinion.
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