Muzzle breaks

[WelshShooter]

By the sound of it we will all be using mod's and shooting sub sonic ammo because the little darlings' lugs are a little sensitive. Personally I have a muzzle break on my 300wm and my 6.5x47 if you don't like it then you are free to move; i put up with things that interfere with my shooting without bleating perhaps other shooters should try the same.

Don't be so naive. Hearing damage is permanent when you are subjected to a combination of repeated loud noises. Some ranges shoot from partial covering which amplifies the redirected noise from a muzzle brake even further. Taking care of your hearing shouldn't be overlooked.

However, seeing as you're pointing fingers at other people being "little darlings", why are you using a muzzle brake on the .300wm and 6.5x47, or are you a little darling who cannot handle the recoil?

There is absolutely no way I shall be fitting moderators or muzzle brakes to my collection of classic firearms.

I don't think anyone is suggesting to do this. The suggestion was to use a moderator in place of a muzzle brake if you use one.

[s.stimson]

I think people like you should be made to lie beside your own rifle being blasted 15-20 times whilst you're trying to shoot competitively and see if you're still of the same opinion.

But I am, I am not the only one who shoots a rifle with a MB,

[s.stimson]

Don't be so naive. Hearing damage is permanent when you are subjected to a combination of repeated loud noises.

Shooting is a noisy sport, its always been a noisy sport so wear decent ear protection, not the cheap foam ear plugs, not the cheap Chinese electronic ear defenders off ebay, buy quality and you lugs will be fine. alternatively we all buy mods, fire sub sonic ammo and wear carpet slippers so we don't make noise. the only naivety i see it those that are too cheap to buy decent ear protection to protect their own hearing and then feel the need to push their problems on others.

[TattooedGun]

Don't be so naive. Hearing damage is permanent when you are subjected to a combination of repeated loud noises.

Shooting is a noisy sport, its always been a noisy sport so wear decent ear protection, not the cheap foam ear plugs, not the cheap Chinese electronic ear defenders off ebay, buy quality and you lugs will be fine. alternatively we all buy mods, fire sub sonic ammo and wear carpet slippers so we don't make noise. the only naivety i see it those that are too cheap to buy decent ear protection to protect their own hearing and then feel the need to push their problems on others.

Whilst shooting is a noisy sport, there's no reason why it should be made LOUDER, specifically to those around you.

You're making some bold assumptions.

I personally use MSA Sordin supreme Pro X With Gel Pads. Arguably some of the best defenders on the market, it certainly isn't about being cheap. My hearing is very valuable to me, much more than cheaping out on ear defense.

As has been mentioned already, it's not down to the noise making it's way to the ears, the concussive blast redirected back by a MB can be damaging even with plugs and over ears.

Whilst its easy for you to say "go move somewhere else" this is not always possible, especially where you're in a club that can only hire one or 2 lanes. In order to get everyone to shoot, someone is going to be subjected to your anti-social break.

Not only are you Naive, you also come across as pretty selfish. "I'm alright, Jack".

[The Gun Pimp]

In this country, there's no real need for rapid follow up shots. Or rather, we cannot make rapid follow up shots given that we need to manipulate the bolt or press a lever or some other such manipulation that has more effect to our firing position than the recoil.[/b]

You ain't never shot (or seen) 600/1000 yard benchrest - five shots in 12 to 15 seconds with a bolt-gun is what I'd call 'rapid'.[/quote]

Whilst that is rapid, a muzzle break is still not necessary unless you've got a particularly light rifle.

Most of the benchrest rifles I've seen don't need a muzzle break because of the sheer mass of rifle/stock negating the recoil.
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All benchrest rifles are built to strict weight limits starting at 10.5lbs but believe me, a 17lbs 'Light Gun' chambered in something like a 7mmWSM needs a brake if you are going to shoot quick enough to be competitive. Come and try it.

[The Gun Pimp]

By the sound of it we will all be using mod's and shooting sub sonic ammo because the little darlings' lugs are a little sensitive. Personally I have a muzzle break on my 300wm and my 6.5x47 if you don't like it then you are free to move; i put up with things that interfere with my shooting without bleating perhaps other shooters should try the same.

I think people like you should be made to lie beside your own rifle being blasted 15-20 times whilst you're trying to shoot competitively and see if you're still of the same opinion.

As a matter of interest, other than benchrest and McQueen, what other competitions permit braked and non-braked rifles to shoot shoulder to shoulder?

[TattooedGun]

By the sound of it we will all be using mod's and shooting sub sonic ammo because the little darlings' lugs are a little sensitive. Personally I have a muzzle break on my 300wm and my 6.5x47 if you don't like it then you are free to move; i put up with things that interfere with my shooting without bleating perhaps other shooters should try the same.

I think people like you should be made to lie beside your own rifle being blasted 15-20 times whilst you're trying to shoot competitively and see if you're still of the same opinion.

As a matter of interest, other than benchrest and McQueen, what other competitions permit braked and non-braked rifles to shoot shoulder to shoulder?

I can't speak for National competitions, but as mentioned previously, smaller club-level competitions or practice on MOD ranges where there are only numbers to hire/book 2-3 lanes through necessity.

[TattooedGun]

All benchrest rifles are built to strict weight limits starting at 10.5lbs but believe me, a 17lbs 'Light Gun' chambered in something like a 7mmWSM needs a brake if you are going to shoot quick enough to be competitive. Come and try it.

Thanks for the invite and info, though I'll likely not take you up on it, whilst I see the appeal to many, I can't say it is of interest to me.

[kennyc]

By the sound of it we will all be using mod's and shooting sub sonic ammo because the little darlings' lugs are a little sensitive. Personally I have a muzzle break on my 300wm and my 6.5x47 if you don't like it then you are free to move; i put up with things that interfere with my shooting without bleating perhaps other shooters should try the same.

I think people like you should be made to lie beside your own rifle being blasted 15-20 times whilst you're trying to shoot competitively and see if you're still of the same opinion.

got to be honest, I have had MB's either side of me on the firing line, and other than the opportunity to indulge in some "banter" it hasn't bothered me at all, that said, I wear ear protection, and have the reactions of a brick wall ,so unlikely to react to a loud bang , I usually shoot target with either a plain barrel, or if not shooting strings a moderator (heat shimmer of a mod can be a real issue) I would consider a brake if I was the competetive sort, shooting rapidly (or a 6.5) but I don't so there
as an aside when I did my DSC1 I was surprised to see people without mods asked to shoot seperatly from those with "in case people were put off by the noise"

[Airbrush]

By the sound of it we will all be using mod's and shooting sub sonic ammo because the little darlings' lugs are a little sensitive. Personally I have a muzzle break on my 300wm and my 6.5x47 if you don't like it then you are free to move; i put up with things that interfere with my shooting without bleating perhaps other shooters should try the same.

I think people like you should be made to lie beside your own rifle being blasted 15-20 times whilst you're trying to shoot competitively and see if you're still of the same opinion.

As a matter of interest, other than benchrest and McQueen, what other competitions permit braked and non-braked rifles to shoot shoulder to shoulder?

CSR, & it's never been a problem afaik. But then CSR shooters just get on with it & shoot.