TattooedGun wrote:Oooh, this is an exciting conversation.
Slow-fire shared lane single-fire, individually marked shots being the main culprit, in my opinion.
So what do we do when we shoot mixed in a club and they are happy, but our friend wanders past the point with his ears off expecting the bleating of new-borne lambs and the curlew piping in the hills eh? Well, come one? Where does it stop?
Most practice sessions are mixed slow fire individually marked.
Well balanced post though otherwise (B-M has a thing for moderators.....I bet he has plans to start selling them very shortly clapclap )
TattooedGun wrote:Oooh, this is an exciting conversation.
Slow-fire shared lane single-fire, individually marked shots being the main culprit, in my opinion.
So what do we do when we shoot mixed in a club and they are happy, but our friend wanders past the point with his ears off expecting the bleating of new-borne lambs and the curlew piping in the hills eh? Well, come one? Where does it stop?
As an RCO, I'd suggest they put their ears on quick sharp before they're excused for not adhering to the rules set out in the range briefing. hearing protection is mandatory.
Feel inadequate now as I only came up with "golf"! "Free fall donkey stuffing" now that sounds like a real man's sport (but only as long as it is done quietly)!
a. Muzzle Brakes: Permitted. As a consequence, meeting organisers will notify all CSR & PR events to range operators as involving muzzle brakes, and firers are required to accept that adjacent firers may be using such.
NRA Bisley Ranges Regulations para 2(i) (Additional Limits on black powder firearms, muzzle brakes and tables / benches):
Firers who wish to use Black Powder firearms or muzzle brakes or who wish to shoot from a table or bench should inform the Range Office at the time of booking so that appropriate separation on the firing point can be planned. Any firer who does not give advance notice of such requirement may find that proximity of other firers prevents their desired activity.
So, if you tell the Range Office, they should do their best to find you some space. If you don't tell the Range Office, others may complain and it will be your problem not theirs. If we've run out of space we'll all just have to make the best of it. If anyone really feels the need for more rules than that, please submit the case though the relevant Reps.
Had one alongside me this afternoon. No separation, so presumably they hadn't notified at time of booking (not unusual). Actually, on the point it didn't seem to be such an issue, but when I arrived it took 2 or 3 shots to recognise the likelihood of hearing damage and dig my ears out of the back of the car. I guess we need to learn that the safe distances we are used to are no longer safe.
I have good ear defenders and it's not the noise to the ear drum but the percussive blast that rattle your head and in my case eye balls. Not good while your trying to concentrate on your shot.
Muzzle Brakes and not allowed in the GB F Class League shoots (as stated in their handbook).
My .308 long range rifle came with a muzzle brake fitted and it's very beneficial when shooting snap targets at 1,000 yards. When you have just 20 seconds to put one shot on each of four Fig. 11s you need to get back on aim sharpish.
Most of the other club members use them for the same reason. For me, the worst part of shooting next to one is not the noise but the dust that gets blown in to your face. It's a bigger problem on more crowded firing points such as Short Siberia and for that reason I have bought a moderator.
Having said that I have had very few complaints at Bisley. I took the rifle for my son to shoot at a recent Guest Day, and despite the firing point being full to capacity the RCO was quite happy for me to leave the brake on the rifle so long as I advised the shooters adjacent before commencing fire.
Seems to me that in this day and age (especially whilst shooting at the largest and busiest range in Britain),that people my have to realise that not everyone shoots the same disciplines as them, so a bit of give and take is required, therefore having to put your ear defenders on while other people practice their discipline is not too much to ask, and you can no longer treat (and expect everyone else too as well) the area behind the firing point as a picnic area to have a nice quiet jolly with your mates.
hitchphil wrote:
Your perverted 'lojik' is the same bull put up by smokers against passive smoking effects on health - its not my responsibility to wear a suitable gas mask in public because people smoke & its not reasonable to expect people in the car park to have to wear ear defs because one person wishes to use a MB! the only bo...cks being exposed here is by you & Cad M. You have no right to inflict excessive & damaging noise on people well behind the FP & on butt 19@ 600 the residents in the houses behind. I do have the right to ask you to stop & i do do that, you & those that believe MBs are acceptable in mixed discipline shoots wont be the first people i have had removed from the FP for using them. The more it happens & the more people put up these arguments to justify using them the closer we get to a great number of people asking NRA for a formal ban. The more crap i read justifying the 'rights of MB users' the closer I get to a motion at AGM & General council.
Titchphil, you are a very angry man….have you ever considered taking up another sport, maybe something like golf would suit your better .
sorry I meant Hitchphil......the 'T' is very close to the 'H' on the keyboard
And the v-bull is very close to the 3 ring on your targets Dave ?
