Long barreled pistols question

[Alpha1]

If you want to purchase a long barreled pistol in .22 caliber for instance. Do you have to have a specific slot for a long barreled .22. Or does a .22 slot cover it.
Is there some thing that prevents you using one on the range if its not your gun. How does the law stand on this type of firearm.

[TattooedGun]

The legislation, or document that allows you to use each others or club rifles at ranges, only applies where a club is a Home Office approved club, and is applicable due to their Home Office Exemption Certificate.
It specifically names Long Barrelled Pistols, Rifles Over 10,000ft lbs Muzzle Energy and Section 1 Shotguns as being exempt from the document/ what it covers.

The Home Office Guidance on Firearms Law, April 2016 (Page 161) states:

18 (3): Members of a rifle club, miniature rifle club or muzzle-loading pistol club approved by the Secretary of State or the Scottish Ministers may, without holding firearm certificates, have in their possession firearms and ammunition when engaged as members of the club in, or in connection with, target shooting (section 15(1) of the 1988 Act as amended by section 45 of the 1997 Act). It should be noted that section 15(1) does not stipulate that the firearms must be club firearms. A member of an approved club may temporarily possess a firearm solely in connection with target shooting on the club's range, or other ranges which it may use. However, a person cannot possess a firearm under this exemption if it is a class of firearm for which the club is not approved. It should also be noted that section 15(1) of the 1988 Act, as amended, does not apply to the use of long barrelled pistols or section 1 shotguns used for target shooting, as it only allows possession of rifles or muzzle-loading pistols at suitably approved clubs. Accordingly, club approval cannot be extended to cover the use of these firearms.

Not sure on the slot advice, but interested to learn as I'm about to look to acquire one.

[Ginger]

First of all Alpha pistols are semi auto and secondly most are based on military / police owned pistols and mainly black, just thought I would warn you.

I believe one needs a slot for a lbr or lbp rather than a generic .22 slot. Sorry I am out so cannot check my free slot on my ticket.

Will check when I am home.

[Alpha1]

So does that mean I can not use another members long barreled pistol.

[TattooedGun]

So does that mean I can not use another members long barreled pistol.

Exactly.

You are not legally allowed to even handle one as far as I understand - unless that serialised pistol is on your license.

[Dorset_shooter]

So does that mean I can not use another members long barreled pistol.

Exactly.

You are not legally allowed to even handle one as far as I understand - unless that serialised pistol is on your license.

I use a club lbp with supervision at my club without it on my fac.

In order to learn before its put on the fac.

Can't use it on my own, couldn't use another members lbp, only club.

Needs to specify lbp or lbr on fac to purchase.

[Alpha1]

So if its a Club gun then that's OK as long as you are supervised but you can not use another members. Is that what you are saying.

[safetyfirst]

Muddy waters here as most forces won't allow a club to put an LBP on the club license. Despite precedence.

[Dorset_shooter]

So if its a Club gun then that's OK as long as you are supervised but you can not use another members. Is that what you are saying.

From what i can understand, as a member of a club that has lbp I can use it with supervision.

As I have done for a few months now.

You can't use a private persons lbp, from what I can gather.


Feel free to amend this.

[TattooedGun]

The Home Office had the chance twice recently to update the Home Office Exemption to include Long Barrelled Pistols and Section 1 Shotguns on the Home Office Exemption but did not, for whatever reason, do so.

As is my understanding after looking into this extensively, it is still forbidden to handle or shoot a long barrelled pistol on club Home Office Exemption, and there are no other ways to do so.

I would suggest that even if Dorset shooter is doing so at their club, by the letter of the law, they should not be.

I have heard of clubs being issued Long barrelled pistols on club certificates, but then I've also seen gross negligence and misinformation being given by firearms teams before now.

I will not comment further on this or get into a debate unless someone can show me where the Home Office Exemption ban on long barrel pistols has been lifted by the Home office, or in legislation, regardless of doing so at XYZ club around the country.