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Re: 1-4-1 Variation

#11 Post by GeeRam »

38Super wrote:I did the same and was told by Avon & Somerset that it was only a free 141 when having one that's been sold removed and you could have the slot changed and then only within 28 days of the sale. They let me off the charge in the end though.
Funnily enough, thats exactly the scenario I was doing with my one, was part'exing my 30-06 for the 7.92x57 with a RFD, not that they mentioned any time limit between the two, but in fairness to the Met, they also let me off the 20 quid as well (as long as I didn't do it again)
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#12 Post by GeeRam »

ukrifleman wrote:
I always deliver and collect my FAC by hand, as I consider it a security risk sending it in the mail and if there is a problem on collection, you're in the right place to get it sorted.
Be thankfull you can do that.

Not allowed to do that with the Met in London because of where the FET is located.
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#13 Post by TRG-22 »

GeeRam wrote:Funnily enough, thats exactly the scenario I was doing with my one, was part'exing my 30-06 for the 7.92x57 with a RFD, not that they mentioned any time limit between the two, but in fairness to the Met, they also let me off the 20 quid as well (as long as I didn't do it again)
In fairness to the idea of "different interpretations", the table of fees on the Met Police website is 100% clear that the £20 fee applies to adding firearms.
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#14 Post by TRG-22 »

GeeRam wrote:Not allowed to do that with the Met in London because of where the FET is located.
Somewhere seriously secure, like Paddington Green used to be, or just an office somewhere with no reception?
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#15 Post by Polchraine »

TRG-22 wrote:
GeeRam wrote:Not allowed to do that with the Met in London because of where the FET is located.
Somewhere seriously secure, like Paddington Green used to be, or just an office somewhere with no reception?

Empress State Building on West Brompton and Earls Court border. Purely Met Police now although other government organisations including MoD/RN in the past.

You cannot deliver our collect in person and at one time, which may still be the case, use of a courier was not accepted either, it has to be by post.


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#16 Post by GeeRam »

Polchraine wrote:
TRG-22 wrote:
GeeRam wrote:Not allowed to do that with the Met in London because of where the FET is located.
Somewhere seriously secure, like Paddington Green used to be, or just an office somewhere with no reception?

Empress State Building on West Brompton and Earls Court border. Purely Met Police now although other government organisations including MoD/RN in the past.

You cannot deliver our collect in person and at one time, which may still be the case, use of a courier was not accepted either, it has to be by post.
This.
They are located on the 21st floor of this building.

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Its a nice view though from up there though ;)
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Re: 1-4-1 Variation

#17 Post by bradaz11 »

38Super wrote:I did the same and was told by Avon & Somerset that it was only a free 141 when having one that's been sold removed and you could have the slot changed and then only within 28 days of the sale. They let me off the charge in the end though.
but surely that isn't a 1-4-1? that is a sale? slots are given for a gun, if you sell that gun, the slot disappears and you have to apply for a new slot? it's only 1-4-1 when you are changing an unfilled slot isn't it?

or do I have it wrong, and am due 3 free 1-4-1s on recent sales?
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#18 Post by Sim G »

You can "1-4-1" your certificate to change the caliber from one that you have to another, free of charge. Likewise, should you sell a firearm, you can "1-4-1" the authority from the firearm disposed of, free of charge. There is no fee to conduct either of these variations. Likewise, there is no time limit from disposal to applying for a "1-4-1" and it remaining exempt from charging.

A £20 fee is required for a variation when you wish to add to the numbers of authorities you have already certificates for.

Chapter 10 of the Home Office Guidance to Police on Firearms Law states this....
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#19 Post by Sim G »

GeeRam, sort the pic out, mate! It's taking forever to load on my phone...

And trust me, even when there on business, Empress State is very difficult to gain entry to!
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#20 Post by Alpha1 »

You mean like this.
I dont understand why people do that with pictures.
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