Just surrendered my 'weapons'.....

[walesdave]

After a bit of back and forth about the screenshots I supplied for valuations....email today saying they would pay £428.84 against my claim of £471.33.

There is the option to appeal but I think I'll take it as it's close enough.

One thing I find odd is that on the claim form they ask for bank details to make payment but in the email it states a cheque will be sent....doesn't matter either way but a bit of a pain to pay a cheque into the bank.

Time to have a rumage and find anything else that falls under the compensation scheme.

[Airbrush]

I’ve got a Hinderer XM 18 which is a flipper but has a detent & no spring, I can’t figure out if it’s banned or not???

[The Event]

I’ve got a Hinderer XM 18 which is a flipper but has a detent & no spring, I can’t figure out if it’s banned or not???

If there is no spring in it then it should be legal. There has been no change to the definition of a gravity knife so if it was bought from a legitimate retailer since 1959 it would have been illegal for them to sell it to you if it was a gravity knife.

[bradaz11]

I've had a simillar question on facebook. Its like zombie knife, does it NEED to be all three? usually the legislation is clear if it needs to be one or all, but this has no absolute term in it.
can I get rid of a clone dessert dagger for full value?

i've got one flipper like you, that the pivot is a bit loose on, is it a gravity knife if it can be opened from closed, without touching the blade? My understanding is no, it's just a poorly made lock knife.

I have however emailed the hand in HO email address for clarification

[Blackstuff]

After a bit of back and forth about the screenshots I supplied for valuations....email today saying they would pay £428.84 against my claim of £471.33.

There is the option to appeal but I think I'll take it as it's close enough.

Is that a back and forth with the HO or the person doing the valuation?

One thing I find odd is that on the claim form they ask for bank details to make payment but in the email it states a cheque will be sent....doesn't matter either way but a bit of a pain to pay a cheque into the bank.

Yes, hilariously antiquated. Apparently they want your bank details so they can be printed on the cheque

Time to have a rumage and find anything else that falls under the compensation scheme.

Isn't it a one shot deal, if you'll excuse the pun?

[bradaz11]

Time to have a rumage and find anything else that falls under the compensation scheme.

Isn't it a one shot deal, if you'll excuse the pun?

nope, I have an email from the HO, stating that I can even separate out my claims, one for all the standard values, one for justified values

I can post the whole thing if you like?

[Dellboy]

ive got a 20 inch kebab knife is it legal ? asking for a friend

[bradaz11]

i just wanted to clear out some bits. the HO reply confirms that it needs to be all 3 to be a zombie knife.

so I can't get rid of any of these for some cash.

they are seeking clarification on gravity knife meaning.

[bradaz11]

HO

'As regards, gravity knives then they have confirmed that knives where you can open them by way of force with a movement of the hand and wrist would be classed as gravity knives. They did say that a normal lock knife if it’s old or used a lot then could quite easily be opened by a movement of the hand. The key point would be is the knife designed to be opened in that way without have having to use a button or any other device. If there is a mechanism to open the knife then this would be considered a flick knife. '

so a flipper is not a gravity knife, as you have to start to open it. but if it is designed to go from closed to open with a flick - gravity knife.

[walesdave]

Is that a back and forth with the HO or the person doing the valuation?

With the Home Office bods - appears they are the ones 'adjusting' any non-standard valuations if they see fit.

HO
'As regards, gravity knives then they have confirmed that knives where you can open them by way of force with a movement of the hand and wrist would be classed as gravity knives. [...] so a flipper is not a gravity knife, as you have to start to open it. but if it is designed to go from closed to open with a flick - gravity knife.

Pretty much what was said when I handed in a flipper as a 'gravity knife' (the lock never worked properly so I was glad to get rid of it); if you can open the blade without touching it at all then = gravity knife, if you need to 'hit' a flipper / thumb stud etc. to open it then not a gravity knife.

I think a lot of 'gravity knives' will just be lock knives with loose pivots that have worn over the years, at £40 each standard valuation I'm going to be digging through some draws - standard valuations aren't questioned and are paid out automatically as long as the receiving police station agrees the knife fits the 'definition'.