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Ideas for accurate 223

#1 Post by EagerNoSkill »

Hi all
.223 for up to 600 yards
Twist recommendation?
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#2 Post by ovenpaa »

Depends on the bullet weight. As an example Christel shoots with a 1:8
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Would go for heavier 223
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1/7 for 77grains +
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#5 Post by Dr. Strangelove »

My only experience is with an LSW at 600yds. That had a 1:7 twist with 62gr bullets and was okay, affected by wind quite a bit though.
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#6 Post by ovenpaa »

Christel shoots 1:8 with 80 grain .224 SMK's. I am going to stick my neck out here and say I think it is very accurate.

For .223 the 90 grain Berger would be one of my choices and that would need 1:7 - I have a box I was going to try but the bloody things explode when pushed hard so I never bothered..... :bad:
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#7 Post by Sim G »

69gn SMK's with a 1 in 9" twist Savage...... bangs V bulls at 600 with boring regularity.....
In 1978 I was told by my grand dad that the secret to rifle accuracy is, a quality bullet, fired down a quality barrel..... How has that changed?

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#8 Post by Meaty »

Brought my wife a Ruger M77 VT in 223, 1 in 9 twist - as she didnt like the recoil of the 308 (bless her!)
SMK 69 gn + Vit 140 or Varget and as Sim G said "bangs V bulls at 600 with boring regularity" as long as its not windy - so much for Rugers being inaccurate!
It will never be a competitive rifle but is a great plinker @ 600
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#9 Post by John MH »

Dr. Strangelove wrote:My only experience is with an LSW at 600yds. That had a 1:7 twist with 62gr bullets and was okay, affected by wind quite a bit though.
Wouldn't use an LSW to guage the accuracy potential of the .223 Rem :run:

However, to run the heavier more wind bucking capable bullets you will need a faster twist than 1:9, generally 1:7 to 1:7.5 is what is recommended by the bullet manufacturers but be wary of the 80 grain plus bullets as they extend the COL quite a bit and will not always feed from a box magazine if that is what you have in mind.
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#10 Post by EagerNoSkill »

John MH wrote:However, to run the heavier more wind bucking capable bullets you will need a faster twist than 1:9, generally 1:7 to 1:7.5 is what is recommended by the bullet manufacturers but be wary of the 80 grain plus bullets as they extend the COL quite a bit and will not always feed from a box magazine if that is what you have in mind.
APOLOGIES all - typing on I-phone with stubby finger not ideal and now I want to explain my thinking..

I believe in "Train Hard Fight Easy"
What I am looking for is a super accurate F-Class type .223.
My thinking is thus .... and it may be flawed so bear with me - I have never let my ignorance stop my bad ideas :-P

I have a world class F-Class 308 built my MIKMAK of Dolphin Guns and yes it is way to good for me - for now!
I will practice diligently but F-Class in the end is about Wind Reading.
The 308 in competition mode attempts to minimise wind reading!

Primary use or .223
To that end I want a lighter gun (ie .223) that is super accurate BUT in lighter winds will drift more
Thus up to 600 yards I will have a gun I can shot and see wind affect more readily and hopefully learn more

A secondary benefit is that the .223 is F-TR compliant and I have a gun that
1. Can be a backup to the 308
2. Take up some of the barrel wear that would have been on the 308 both in training an dup to 600 yards

Options
I am happy to look at a custom OR a decent off the shelf rifle
I have been exposed and had a very accurate Weatheryby .223 in South Africa

BUT what is viable and accurate in the UK market is a unknown to me

I do appreciate all the feedback
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