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Recommendation 357 magnum

#1 Post by EagerNoSkill »

Ok boys and girls

What 38 357 carbine to fill that slot that is calling me names?
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Go for a Marlin would be my advice, the longer the barrel the better..
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Hi Tim
I have a .357 Winchester 94 AE Legacy. I like the rifle and have had it for more than 10 years, it "looks the part" and is sweet to shoot - BUT - I have had the usual ejector problems (I'm on my third one) and it is not a "one hole rifle" I've tried everything I know to see if there is accuracy in there somewhere. I've tried jacketed and lead, heavy and light, light and heavy charges, different powders. I've stripped it right down and shot it with no magazine tube or fore-end from solid sandbags etc. accuracy is still only so-so, but then these rifles were never designed to be accurate.

So - Fun to shoot - a bit frail - spares getting hard to find.

(it seems it is only the .357 that has the ejector problems)
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Armalon-Sarony PC Gallery Rifle?

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bnz41 wrote:Go for a Marlin would be my advice, the longer the barrel the better..
Why?

At 25 or 50 yard gallery rifle ranges the barrel length surely isn't an issue?
If anything the longer barrels are a disadvantage in the timed competitions because easy handling is almost as important.

I shoot a Marlin 1894P and I don't see any practical difference in accuracy at gallery ranges compared with those who shoot longer barrels.

I also have a Rossi 92 20 incher. It is very reliable :shock: , very slick and regularly shoots 300's on TP1 (with irons)

Marlins = more expensive, feckin screws are always coming loose **** , can mount an optic :good:

Rossi = cheaper, can have feed issues **** , screws dont come loose :good: , no top mount optic :bad: .

A good Marlin s/h is £450-500
A good Rossi (if you can get lucky) is £250-300

As usual it just depends what you want it for and how much you want to pay.
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jjvc wrote:Armalon-Sarony PC Gallery Rifle?

Joe
They are good, and being bolt action are super accurate compared with levers. But, you have to be very quick with the bolt to beat a lever action for speed. I've seen it done, but it takes much practice.

Sadly, he doesn't make the .357's any more. Unless you go for a 'special order' which will be about £1500 (probably)

They do appear second hand sometimes but they are still best part of £900-£1000. Most of the ones that come up are 9mm or 45 ACP.
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1066 wrote:Hi Tim
I have a .357 Winchester 94 AE Legacy. I like the rifle and have had it for more than 10 years, it "looks the part" and is sweet to shoot - BUT - I have had the usual ejector problems (I'm on my third one) and it is not a "one hole rifle" I've tried everything I know to see if there is accuracy in there somewhere. I've tried jacketed and lead, heavy and light, light and heavy charges, different powders. I've stripped it right down and shot it with no magazine tube or fore-end from solid sandbags etc. accuracy is still only so-so, but then these rifles were never designed to be accurate.

So - Fun to shoot - a bit frail - spares getting hard to find.

(it seems it is only the .357 that has the ejector problems)
I have a 94AE Legacy as well. I chopped the barrel back to 13.25 inches and the mag back to a capacity of 6. It shoots and handles really well-I'm not on my computer at the moment so I can't show the group, but I did range report on it late last year.

I sometimes have failures to extract/eject but with mine it's more down to the state of the brass and crud under the extractor claw - easy solved new brass and a clean. Double feeds can also be a problem but shortening the mag spring sorts that.

For me the 94AE is now good fun, very accurate and my wife's favourite! :shock:

Another option could be the Alfa Proj Revelover Carbine - just to be different. ;)
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Individual wrote:I shoot a Marlin 1894P

Well that's now two of that I know in the UK!! Yours and mine.......

Supposedly, the ten importer only brought in ten of each of the "P" and the "CP". I'm still hunting for a CP to go with it's big brother.

Back to the OP. Winchester will give you grief. I've not seen one yet that hasn't caused problems. New Marlins made by Remington are an abortion!!! Second-hand prices of Marlins have gone through the roof since the new impoters, Edgar Brothers, decided to put 400 quid on the cost of a Marlin Cowboy!

I had a Rossi that I bought new. Stainless, 24" octagonal barrel in .44. I used it for a couple of years, then sold it to a club member. He then sold it to the club as a club gun. The club then sold it to another membe and it's still going strong......

I'm a huge Marlin fan. I have eight. Get a Rossi. Cheap, reliable, accurate enough, durable with loads of choice in finish and configuration.
In 1978 I was told by my grand dad that the secret to rifle accuracy is, a quality bullet, fired down a quality barrel..... How has that changed?

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The best way to shoot. A winchester or rossi is to sell them and buy a marlin froideur sign92
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Savage 1899, best underlever ever made.

Didn't do them in .357" though.

Still in those days rifles were rifles not wannabe pistols.
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