Target Rifle bullet weights

[ratters]

I have been checking through the NRA rule book (Bisley Bible) and I can't find anything about bullet weights for TR. There was a maximum weight of 155 grain. Have I missed something or has the rule been dropped?

[20series]

TR is normally shot with "issued" ammo which used to be RG but now RUAG and is 155gn.

HTH

Alan

[GazMorris]

I have been checking through the NRA rule book (Bisley Bible) and I can't find anything about bullet weights for TR. There was a maximum weight of 155 grain. Have I missed something or has the rule been dropped?

20Series is spot on; most competitions at Bisley are shot with issued ammo e.g. RUAG or HPS generally loaded with the old-style Sierra 155 grain Palma MatchKing. The competitions that allow handloads (e.g. WRA Open over the August Bank Holiday) usually specify a max bullet weight of 156 grains to allow for a bit of variation in the bullets.

Cheers,

Gaz

[Dave 101]

I have been checking through the NRA rule book (Bisley Bible) and I can't find anything about bullet weights for TR. There was a maximum weight of 155 grain. Have I missed something or has the rule been dropped?

20Series is spot on; most competitions at Bisley are shot with issued ammo e.g. RUAG or HPS generally loaded with the old-style Sierra 155 grain Palma MatchKing. The competitions that allow handloads (e.g. WRA Open over the August Bank Holiday) usually specify a max bullet weight of 156 grains to allow for a bit of variation in the bullets.

Cheers,

Gaz

I was told by a shooting buddy the ammo was issued and dumped so they could use their own ammo which was tuned to their requirments !

Dave

[IainWR]

Hi Dave


Afraid I don't get what you mean - can you explain further, please?

Iain

[GazMorris]

I was told by a shooting buddy the ammo was issued and dumped so they could use their own ammo which was tuned to their requirments !

Hi Dave,

This sort of thing has been rumoured to be going on for years but no one has been caught doing it for a very long time as far as I know (I've seen Iain Robertson hanging aound here, so maybe he could comment further.) True, it wouldn't be hard to get away with in the short term as ammo inspections are fairly rare and one HPBT bullet looks much like another from a couple of metres away, but if you cheat serially then you're going to get caught sooner or later. If people were doing it, then you would have expected someone to have been caught in recent history.

Given that RAUG is not bad ammo and seems to be much less likely than RG to give you random fliers, the reward/risk ratio isn't ever going to be worth it. I handload and get marginally better groups than with RUAG with minimal effort, but hit the law of diminishing returns quite quickly! Without a LOT of effort you're just not going to get enough of an accuracy difference for it to be noticeable when shooting TR unless you use a much higher BC bullet, which makes it more likely that you'll get caught; e.g. 190 Sierras would look about the same as the Sierra 155s (same ogive) but the muzzle report sounds different (at least to me it does); and 155.5 Bergers look very different as they have a much pointier ogive.

NB - Getting caught would almost certainly result in a life ban and such things usually get widely publicised to employers, the police etc... Not good!

Gaz

PS - The trick that people allegedly used to use during the days of RG was to go and enter the McQueen a couple of times but not shoot to pick up some issued ammo, pull the bullets reweigh the powder and then seat a Sierra.

[Dave 101]

Hi Gaz

that story was told to me about 10 years ago so its getting on in years now , same guy said the service rifle comps meant wearing a gas mask and fixed bayonet and doing a run down .

Dave