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Hmm this is confusing. tesnews

I regret to write that Border Barrels are no longer the agents for IOR.

This website may or may not be able to help:

http://www.luchtbuks.com/luchtbuks/index.php

Buy a Meopta and save yourself a pile of cash.

http://www.guns.gb.com/contents/en-uk/p ... scope.html

I thank you all for your input. I am overwhelmed by your replies. I am leaning to wards a Leupold only problem is I really do not know and I mean I really do not know any thing about rifle scopes. I have owned and shot milsurp rifles all my life I know nothing about black rifles. F Cass Bench rest etc.
There has been a suggestion in another forum post about a S class type comp next year. It interests me but I repeat I know nothing about scopes so I would like to ask some questions if that is OK.

I have been trawling the net the only riflescope I own that is worth mounting on a rifle is the Khales that came with the Steyr SSG P1 I was considering taking it off and purchasing a new one to shoot this S Class thing but like I said I know nothing about scopes/optics.
Some interesting comments on some of the other forums makes me wonder if it is worth it.

The following comments were posted on another forum.

Good scope, solid made to take a beating. The BDC cam should have a two or three character's/letters on the side. If it doesn't, then it's a cam for the 7.62x51 NATO bullet (i.e. 145 to 150-gr FMJ), if it is labeled "MH", then it's for the Hirtenberger Match 168-gr bullet, and very close to the 168-gr SMK ballistics. Those are the two I have on my ZF-95's which have centered reticles. I also have a cam for 5.56x45 62-gr, but I can't remember what it's labeled? If you didn't get the manual with your scope, I can photo copy mine for you which is a combo ZF-84/95 manual. It's nothing fancy, just three folded pages with spec.s, and how to adjust the turrets.

I had a ZF-95 6x42 with MilDot, but sold it. I also had a Swarovski labeled ZF-84 6x42 with STANAG mounts on an HK91 years ago. Now I just have the ZF-95 10x42 models, with one having Target Turrets (1/4 moa) and MilDot reticle. It's mounted on my 5R/308, and I use it out to 1000-yards almost every weekend. Great scopes!

I need to check mine to see how its marked up but I have a feeling its set up for the .308 150 grain bullet. The guy I got the SSG from had used it Competitively it came with two ten round mags marked up A and B and two five round mags marked up A and B. Now I think about it there was also a load of reloading data when I bought it it was in a custom made gun case with all the original paper work factory group targets etc. I shoved the gun case in the loft I think I need to go take a look.

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forbie wrote: Border can get you one.

No they can't. IOR no longer has a UK dealer due to reliability and after sales service issues.

Alpha1 wrote:I have been trawling the net the only riflescope I own that is worth mounting on a rifle is the Khales that came with the Steyr SSG P1 I was considering taking it off and purchasing a new one to shoot this S Class thing but like I said I know nothing about scopes/optics.
Some interesting comments on some of the other forums makes me wonder if it is worth it.

The following comments were posted on another forum.

Good scope, solid made to take a beating. The BDC cam should have a two or three character's/letters on the side. If it doesn't, then it's a cam for the 7.62x51 NATO bullet (i.e. 145 to 150-gr FMJ), if it is labeled "MH", then it's for the Hirtenberger Match 168-gr bullet, and very close to the 168-gr SMK ballistics. Those are the two I have on my ZF-95's which have centered reticles. I also have a cam for 5.56x45 62-gr, but I can't remember what it's labeled? If you didn't get the manual with your scope, I can photo copy mine for you which is a combo ZF-84/95 manual. It's nothing fancy, just three folded pages with spec.s, and how to adjust the turrets.

I had a ZF-95 6x42 with MilDot, but sold it. I also had a Swarovski labeled ZF-84 6x42 with STANAG mounts on an HK91 years ago. Now I just have the ZF-95 10x42 models, with one having Target Turrets (1/4 moa) and MilDot reticle. It's mounted on my 5R/308, and I use it out to 1000-yards almost every weekend. Great scopes!

I need to check mine to see how its marked up but I have a feeling its set up for the .308 150 grain bullet. The guy I got the SSG from had used it Competitively it came with two ten round mags marked up A and B and two five round mags marked up A and B. Now I think about it there was also a load of reloading data when I bought it it was in a custom made gun case with all the original paper work factory group targets etc. I shoved the gun case in the loft I think I need to go take a look.

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What do the following mean please:

MilDot
moa
BDC
FMJ
SMK

dromia wrote:

Alpha1 wrote:I have been trawling the net the only riflescope I own that is worth mounting on a rifle is the Khales that came with the Steyr SSG P1 I was considering taking it off and purchasing a new one to shoot this S Class thing but like I said I know nothing about scopes/optics.
Some interesting comments on some of the other forums makes me wonder if it is worth it.

The following comments were posted on another forum.

Good scope, solid made to take a beating. The BDC cam should have a two or three character's/letters on the side. If it doesn't, then it's a cam for the 7.62x51 NATO bullet (i.e. 145 to 150-gr FMJ), if it is labeled "MH", then it's for the Hirtenberger Match 168-gr bullet, and very close to the 168-gr SMK ballistics. Those are the two I have on my ZF-95's which have centered reticles. I also have a cam for 5.56x45 62-gr, but I can't remember what it's labeled? If you didn't get the manual with your scope, I can photo copy mine for you which is a combo ZF-84/95 manual. It's nothing fancy, just three folded pages with spec.s, and how to adjust the turrets.

I had a ZF-95 6x42 with MilDot, but sold it. I also had a Swarovski labeled ZF-84 6x42 with STANAG mounts on an HK91 years ago. Now I just have the ZF-95 10x42 models, with one having Target Turrets (1/4 moa) and MilDot reticle. It's mounted on my 5R/308, and I use it out to 1000-yards almost every weekend. Great scopes!

I need to check mine to see how its marked up but I have a feeling its set up for the .308 150 grain bullet. The guy I got the SSG from had used it Competitively it came with two ten round mags marked up A and B and two five round mags marked up A and B. Now I think about it there was also a load of reloading data when I bought it it was in a custom made gun case with all the original paper work factory group targets etc. I shoved the gun case in the loft I think I need to go take a look.

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What do the following mean please:

MilDot
moa
BDC
FMJ
SMK

surely you jest sir? wtfwtf

Just helping Dave out.

I know they aren't (Border) but they will still get you one. Reliability issuses are with the first generation as I understand it. Sounding like a wind up anyway. You managed to buy a decent rifle yet know nothing about scopes! Smoke blow and a.r.!.e. come to mind. An you have 1333 posts duh! .

MilDot
moa
BDC
FMJ
SMK
I don't know what they mean Adam that's why I am asking the questions. :cool2: