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Re: Medical form for for applications / renewals

Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 3:58 pm
by Racalman
I've just been asked by TVP to renew my FAC two years early.

Reading through the form, they want to know if I have consulted medical practitioners other than at my GP practice in the last 10 years.

Does that mean I have to list every operation, blood test etc. even though I was referred to them by my GP?

Re: Medical form for for applications / renewals

Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 4:51 pm
by Polchraine
Racalman wrote:I've just been asked by TVP to renew my FAC two years early.

Reading through the form, they want to know if I have consulted medical practitioners other than at my GP practice in the last 10 years.

Does that mean I have to list every operation, blood test etc. even though I was referred to them by my GP?

Can you copy the exact words - my understanding from last year was that it said something like: "Have you consulted any medical practitioners in the past xx years apart from your GP or those referred to by your GP?"

My response was No, as I have been referred for blood tests, PSA test, x-rays, ultrasound scan, all done through the GP.

Re: Medical form for for applications / renewals

Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 5:16 pm
by Pete
Why are they asking you to renew two years early?

Pete

Re: Medical form for for applications / renewals

Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 6:08 pm
by GeeRam
Pete wrote:Why are they asking you to renew two years early?

Pete
I'm curious as well, as I've just moved into TVP and my new FEO told me to apply for my renewal (expires Feb next year) about 6 months ahead.

Re: Medical form for for applications / renewals

Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 10:11 pm
by Racalman
The letter said that they are trying to level off the peaks in renewals. They are expecting to be busy in 2022 and have offered to renew mine now for £25 if I respond within 2 months.

The wording I am questioning is this:

"Are their any periods in the past 10 years when you have not been registered with a UK GP or have consulted medical practitioners other than at your GP practice?"

I've been with my GP practice for 40 years so I think the answer is no, but in the last 10 years I've had a number of hospital visits. As I was referred by my GP surely I don't need to list those?

I know the best thing is to talk to TVP but I wondered how others had answered the question.

Re: Medical form for for applications / renewals

Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 10:14 pm
by Pete
If you were only ever referred by your GP, then your answer is no..............had you seen someone privately, then they'd need to know that.

Pete

Re: Medical form for for applications / renewals

Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 7:33 am
by Racalman
Pete wrote:If you were only ever referred by your GP, then your answer is no..............had you seen someone privately, then they'd need to know that.

Pete
But private consultations still need to be referred by a GP and they receive a copy of the consultant's letters so all the information is available to the GP.

Re: Medical form for for applications / renewals

Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 8:28 am
by RDC
Racalman wrote:
Pete wrote:If you were only ever referred by your GP, then your answer is no..............had you seen someone privately, then they'd need to know that.

Pete
But private consultations still need to be referred by a GP and they receive a copy of the consultant's letters so all the information is available to the GP.
Not they don't. Anyone can go private right from the start off for anything if they so wish.

Re: Medical form for for applications / renewals

Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 11:36 am
by Polchraine
Racalman wrote:The letter said that they are trying to level off the peaks in renewals. They are expecting to be busy in 2022 and have offered to renew mine now for £25 if I respond within 2 months.

The wording I am questioning is this:

"Are their any periods in the past 10 years when you have not been registered with a UK GP or have consulted medical practitioners other than at your GP practice?"

I've been with my GP practice for 40 years so I think the answer is no, but in the last 10 years I've had a number of hospital visits. As I was referred by my GP surely I don't need to list those?

I know the best thing is to talk to TVP but I wondered how others had answered the question.

So you lose 2 years - assuming just an FAC that is a loss of £24.80. So, paying £25 + £24.80 = £49.80 which means a saving of £12.20 meaning they are not trying to rip you off.
If coterminus, £26 + £25 = £51 and thus saving £14.


I would suggest that visit for blood, x-ray, ultrasound are NOT consultations but part of the GP consultation, however, the way it is worded, seeing a hospital consultant would come under that requirement.


I know that I will need to disclose visiting a "medical practitioner" in the USA on my next renewal - just a plain ear infection. The exact wording would mean that technically some of my former staff would need to disclose "consulting medical practitioners" are part of their roles - however the consultations were on how the doctors work and not for personal medical issues.

Re: Medical form for for applications / renewals

Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 4:05 pm
by Racalman
RDC wrote:
Racalman wrote:
Pete wrote:If you were only ever referred by your GP, then your answer is no..............had you seen someone privately, then they'd need to know that.

Pete
But private consultations still need to be referred by a GP and they receive a copy of the consultant's letters so all the information is available to the GP.
Not they don't. Anyone can go private right from the start off for anything if they so wish.

In my experience anything more complicated than suspicious moles or cataracts require a referral but I won't argue.

On the plus side TVP have advised GPs not to place firearms markers on medical records.