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Re: 20mm Anti-Tank Cannon, Would this be UK legal?

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 10:03 pm
by Swamp Donkey
Mike95 wrote:Home Office Club cert for full bore states...muzzle energy not to exceed 10,000 ft lbs.....might be uk legal if you can find a suitable range!!

Mike95
Club cert yes. Private cert no.

A 50bmg is over 10000 ft lbs, thus why fcsa have a short barrelled bmg to keep energy under the limit of club certs, so members can use a 50 without having it on their own cert.

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Re: 20mm Anti-Tank Cannon, Would this be UK legal?

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:44 pm
by nickb834
Found this for sale today:

http://www.milweb.net/classifieds/view_ ... 2675&cat=6

All nice and legal, welcome to the uk - can have an artillery piece but not a 9mm pistol.....

Interestingly I find no mention of 10000ft/lbs limit in any of the acts including the 1988 act and those after . This would suggest to me that it's an arbitrary limit imposed by the home office and could be argued (however unsuccessfully) to be removed (I wonder if 10000ft/lbs comes from a statutory instrument in fact?).

ETA

It's under section 13.49 of HO Guidance, HO Approval criteria - so it's not primary legislation then......... and neither is it actually specified in the HO Approval Criteria leaflet:

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... Final_.pdf

Re: 20mm Anti-Tank Cannon, Would this be UK legal?

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:15 pm
by saddler
nickb834 wrote:Found this for sale today:

http://www.milweb.net/classifieds/view_ ... 2675&cat=6

All nice and legal, welcome to the uk - can have an artillery piece but not a 9mm pistol.....

Interestingly I find no mention of 10000ft/lbs limit in any of the acts including the 1988 act and those after . This would suggest to me that it's an arbitrary limit imposed by the home office and could be argued (however unsuccessfully) to be removed (I wonder if 10000ft/lbs comes from a statutory instrument in fact?).

ETA

It's under section 13.49 of HO Guidance, HO Approval criteria - so it's not primary legislation then......... and neither is it actually specified in the HO Approval Criteria leaflet:

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... Final_.pdf
At the Blyth Battery military weekend one of the demo teams was an RA unit.
Thought they were TA, but no....
Seems that the chap in charge had been a Junior Leader in the RA as a youth, then gone on to serve for a few years afterwards.
Time passes & he hears word that the 105mm gun that he trained on was up for sale = so he bought it.
Live firer & makes a reet boom noise when fired....

I'd be tempted to make up some S.2 ammo for it clapclap shakeshout (No, no, not seen any drones around here...)