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I have just been informed by Landmarc that the following 5.56mm military ball amunition is banned on MOD Catterick ranges. Apparently the ban was circulated in August 2017.

If any Club Secretaries want a copy of the email pm me

04/08
BAN 31036 ROUND 5.56MM BALL and 4B/1T BANDOLIER AND LINKED ADAC 11901-04 11903-04 11906-05 11925-05 11926-03 11927-01 ALL RG MANUFACTURED 01 JANUARY 12 TO 31 DECEMBER 12 INCLUSIVE ADAC 11901-04 BKIs RG 1211 121211

Is military ammunition available to the general public (or rather to FAC holders?)?

Rockhopper wrote:Is military ammunition available to the general public (or rather to FAC holders?)?

No, current British military ammunition is not sold to the British public.

In the past(way back) it has been.

Rockhopper wrote:Is military ammunition available to the general public (or rather to FAC holders?)?

Yes, firing points are awash with GGG, RUAG, RG, FNB, LC, MEN etc all NATO stamped.

DanTheMan wrote:

Rockhopper wrote:Is military ammunition available to the general public (or rather to FAC holders?)?

Yes, firing points are awash with GGG, RUAG, RG, FNB, LC, MEN etc all NATO stamped.

However RG is for the most unseen these days, not helped by RG flatly refusing to sell into the civilian market.

Yes, around 10 or so years ago BAe RORG told the trade it had decided it would no longer take any non-government orders and simply stopped supplying the civilian market. So, the only way any relatively recent manufacture RG product, as in that in the banned lot, could end up in civilian shooters' hands would be surplus ammunition sold at the end of its storage life which is in the 10 to 15 years range depending on the army involved. Post end of the cold war, western armies have rarely if ever had any such surplus as with much reduced inventories, (and budgets!), they aim to use everything up before it reaches the disposal date.

I've heard troops complain that they only access the range once a year to meet their military annual training test requirement.

It does seem a terrible waste if the British army are grinding down ammunition when it could be used to improve people's ability with a rifle.

https://www.full-bore.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=9221

DL. wrote:I've heard troops complain that they only access the range once a year to meet their military annual training test requirement.

It does seem a terrible waste if the British army are grinding down ammunition when it could be used to improve people's ability with a rifle.

https://www.full-bore.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=9221

I can confirm this is true!

DL. wrote:I've heard troops complain that they only access the range once a year to meet their military annual training test requirement.

It does seem a terrible waste if the British army are grinding down ammunition when it could be used to improve people's ability with a rifle.

https://www.full-bore.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=9221

Civilian shooters at ranges like G and F Range at Sennybridge probably shoot more rounds on an average range day than the military do!

There isn't any shooting on landmarc ran ranges until the templates get sorted apparently.not sure how many clubs this affects.more crap to deal with it seems on top of the 50 cal and mars rifle proposals grrrrr.