HK-G11 - Muzzle loader?

[ovenpaa]

I just watched the HK-G11 video by Ian Mccollum and it struck me that it is, in principle, a muzzle loader, thoughts anyone?

https://www.full30.com/watch/MDE4MTIy/k ... the-hk-g11

[kennyc]

it uses a self contained round of ammunition I suspect you would struggle to get it past your FEO

[ovenpaa]

Yes, however it is dropped into the top of the rotating chamber so must be a muzzle loader :)

[the running man]

It's not caseless, it comes in a plastic one not a brass one is all.....

[kennyc]

It's not caseless, it comes in a plastic one not a brass one is all.....

are you sure ? I was of the impression that the powder was the round, and was not encased by any other material ?

[Fedaykin]

Well find someone who will sell you a G11 and then put a variation in for the long out of production DM11 4.73x33 caseless and we will be squarely behind you!

[the running man]

It's not caseless, it comes in a plastic one not a brass one is all.....

are you sure ? I was of the impression that the powder was the round, and was not encased by any other material ?

just type "fireing a g11" into you tube and you will see the ammo,plastic encased.....so not truly caseless.....

[safetyfirst]

It’s caseless.

[kennyc]

It’s caseless.

that was my understanding, the round that you see is primarily formed from the propelant in a rigid form, hence the "caseless" description

[safetyfirst]

Correct. The propellant is cast, chemically hardened and then has a projectile and primer inserted. They come in ten round boxes which act as chargers for the magazines.