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HK-G11 - Muzzle loader?
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:37 pm
by ovenpaa
I just watched the HK-G11 video by Ian Mccollum and it struck me that it is, in principle, a muzzle loader, thoughts anyone?
https://www.full30.com/watch/MDE4MTIy/k ... the-hk-g11
Re: HK-G11 - Muzzle loader?
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:25 pm
by kennyc
it uses a self contained
round of ammunition I suspect you would struggle to get it past your FEO
Re: HK-G11 - Muzzle loader?
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:31 pm
by ovenpaa
Yes, however it is dropped into the top of the rotating chamber so must be a muzzle loader :)
Re: HK-G11 - Muzzle loader?
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:42 pm
by the running man
It's not caseless, it comes in a plastic one not a brass one is all.....
Re: HK-G11 - Muzzle loader?
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:28 pm
by kennyc
the running man wrote:It's not caseless, it comes in a plastic one not a brass one is all.....
are you sure ? I was of the impression that the powder was the round, and was not encased by any other material ?
Re: HK-G11 - Muzzle loader?
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:59 pm
by Fedaykin
Well find someone who will sell you a G11 and then put a variation in for the long out of production DM11 4.73x33 caseless and we will be squarely behind you!
Re: HK-G11 - Muzzle loader?
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 6:49 am
by the running man
kennyc wrote:the running man wrote:It's not caseless, it comes in a plastic one not a brass one is all.....
are you sure ? I was of the impression that the powder was the round, and was not encased by any other material ?
just type "fireing a g11" into you tube and you will see the ammo,plastic encased.....so not truly caseless.....
Re: HK-G11 - Muzzle loader?
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:13 am
by safetyfirst
It’s caseless.
Re: HK-G11 - Muzzle loader?
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 11:05 am
by kennyc
safetyfirst wrote:It’s caseless.
that was my understanding, the round that you see is primarily formed from the propelant in a rigid form, hence the "caseless" description
Re: HK-G11 - Muzzle loader?
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 6:21 pm
by safetyfirst
Correct. The propellant is cast, chemically hardened and then has a projectile and primer inserted. They come in ten round boxes which act as chargers for the magazines.