VZ.58 M.A.R.S
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- phaedra1106
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Re: VZ.58 M.A.R.S
With a 350ftlb limit you'd have to keep a 125gr down to around 1130fps or for something heavier like a 165gr around 970fps.
Both are easily achievable using N310 but would it be enough to cycle the gas piston?.
I'd need to be sure as there's no way I could justify spending £2000 on a gun I could only use outdoors maybe 10 times a year.
Both are easily achievable using N310 but would it be enough to cycle the gas piston?.
I'd need to be sure as there's no way I could justify spending £2000 on a gun I could only use outdoors maybe 10 times a year.
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Re: VZ.58 M.A.R.S
it can be done-using gas regulator like on AK GN60 or Dragunow,with 2 settings,small hole for full load-bigger for lower pressure,but...if you mess it up on range...your bolt will park in your skull one day?
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On a Dragunov there are two settings on the gas regulator, one is for shooting normally and the other is used when the rifle is excessively fouled and cleaning is not possible and when shooting at high altitude in very mountainous areas.When the SVDS (folding stock version of the Dragunov) was developed the gas regulator was deemed unnecessary and was omitted on production versions.The Polish Wz(GN)60 and Yugo M70 AK variants have a gas cutoff on the gas block but this is purely to facilitate the launching of rifle grenades.AKM's and AKMS's fitted with a PBS-1 suppressor use subsonic ammunition but still have a standard size non-adjustable gas block.The Wz and M70 are the only AK variants that spring to mind that use a gas cut-off.polemass wrote:it can be done-using gas regulator like on AK GN60 or Dragunow,with 2 settings,small hole for full load-bigger for lower pressure,but...if you mess it up on range...your bolt will park in your skull one day?
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Re: VZ.58 M.A.R.S
Dude, you are the AK and its sisters' uncle; you know everything about everyone.snayperskaya wrote:On a Dragunov there are two settings on the gas regulator, one is for shooting normally and the other is used when the rifle is excessively fouled and cleaning is not possible and when shooting at high altitude in very mountainous areas.When the SVDS (folding stock version of the Dragunov) was developed the gas regulator was deemed unnecessary and was omitted on production versions.The Polish Wz(GN)60 and Yugo M70 AK variants have a gas cutoff on the gas block but this is purely to facilitate the launching of rifle grenades.AKM's and AKMS's fitted with a PBS-1 suppressor use subsonic ammunition but still have a standard size non-adjustable gas block.The Wz and M70 are the only AK variants that spring to mind that use a gas cut-off.polemass wrote:it can be done-using gas regulator like on AK GN60 or Dragunow,with 2 settings,small hole for full load-bigger for lower pressure,but...if you mess it up on range...your bolt will park in your skull one day?
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Thank you, I aim to pleasem7jnu wrote:Dude, you are the AK and its sisters' uncle; you know everything about everyone.snayperskaya wrote:On a Dragunov there are two settings on the gas regulator, one is for shooting normally and the other is used when the rifle is excessively fouled and cleaning is not possible and when shooting at high altitude in very mountainous areas.When the SVDS (folding stock version of the Dragunov) was developed the gas regulator was deemed unnecessary and was omitted on production versions.The Polish Wz(GN)60 and Yugo M70 AK variants have a gas cutoff on the gas block but this is purely to facilitate the launching of rifle grenades.AKM's and AKMS's fitted with a PBS-1 suppressor use subsonic ammunition but still have a standard size non-adjustable gas block.The Wz and M70 are the only AK variants that spring to mind that use a gas cut-off.polemass wrote:it can be done-using gas regulator like on AK GN60 or Dragunow,with 2 settings,small hole for full load-bigger for lower pressure,but...if you mess it up on range...your bolt will park in your skull one day?

Heres one I knocked up from a Saiga, fitted with original Soviet laminate wood, GP-30 grenade launcher recoil pad, PK-A red-dot sight and a rare 30rd aluminium paratroopers magazine (these were experimental and not widely issued).This one was sold to finance an AKMS underfolder.
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Re: VZ.58 M.A.R.S
has anyone had any hands on experience with this firearm yet? Its something i'm really interesting but as when i bought my lever release 9mm i learned there can be a few teething problems with new styles of release mechanisms, can anyone review it, or point to someone who knows about it?
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Post #94AndyUOC95 wrote:has anyone had any hands on experience with this firearm yet? Its something i'm really interesting but as when i bought my lever release 9mm i learned there can be a few teething problems with new styles of release mechanisms, can anyone review it, or point to someone who knows about it?
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Thats the same style I have built my Saiga in (Just need to change the pistol grip from the black one to one similar to yours) even have a similar optic mounted on her :lol:snayperskaya wrote:
Thank you, I aim to please
Heres one I knocked up from a Saiga, fitted with original Soviet laminate wood, GP-30 grenade launcher recoil pad, PK-A red-dot sight and a rare 30rd aluminium paratroopers magazine (these were experimental and not widely issued).This one was sold to finance an AKMS underfolder.

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Still nothing on the Caledonian web site about these.
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Looks truly awesome Tovarich
rare 30rd aluminium paratroopers magazine
Did not even know it existed. Very rare to get hold off I guess ??
Thanks for the info !

rare 30rd aluminium paratroopers magazine
Did not even know it existed. Very rare to get hold off I guess ??
Thanks for the info !
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