Scope for a No.4

[Dougan]

What about a Pecar . http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pecar-Rifle-S ... 3f3f381845


Dave

They're definitely a consideration, and would suit the age of the rifle...

...but what about mounting and zeroing?...There's a few about, but they all seem to have some sort of claw (?) mount already attached to the scope...can they be removed? - And how much adjustment is there for elevation, and would the scope be able to manage being wound between 300 and 600 regularly? ...We've already ruled out the Leupold we were looking at because it didn't have turrets...however, both of us would be prepared to compromise for a more 'classic' scope; but neither of us are experienced at setting such scopes up...

[Maggot]

Maggot

I have a SMLE (1917) that I have a non gunsmith scope mount and scope on it.

It is set up like that for my son so He can shoot my SMLE or His inheritance as He calls it, my son is registered blind the advantage of this setup is I can take the mount off and use it and put it on when he uses it.

I take it in these circumstances you will approve of a scope on an old battle rifle?

If you knew me you would know exactly what my answer to that would be.....

My comments are aimed at the plethora of lazy b****** that cant be bothered to put the time in or want to fool themselves they are a good shot.

People half my age in good health that all think they are Harry Furness and believe getting a V bull on a tin hat target with a scope and a bipod is a genuine achievement and tell everyone so.....right until they realise the rest are doing it with irons.

Not genuinely infirm or disabled folk...but I think you knew that tesnews

John and I share a long standing joke where I bitch at TR shooters and people abusing battle rifles (any model, I don't care) and he takes the p*** out of me generally and has a pop at Fclass.

Turns out he was right and I sold my Fclass kit

So no, while I would personally prefer to do my damndest to be true to myself and the rifles I attempt to shoot, I have no beef whatsoever with people quietly enjoying their sport, particularly if it means they would not otherwise be able to do so.

So good luck to you and your nipper, if I am about and he wants to shoot something else he can shoot my old heap.

Walts on the other hand should be spatchcocked and put under a grill :55:

[Dave 101]

Or go down this route if your doing a repro sniper rifle .


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sniper-scope- ... 566b74e75f

Dave

[Dougan]

Thanks Dave, but I believe the receiver needs drilling to fit the pads - The web page that Mag41uk posted is very interesting...it talks about how the pads were fitted to the original T4s in such a way as to align the scope properly...

[dromia]

John, the Armalon scope mount is angled down to give scopes a usable zero at the longer distances.

[Dougan]

Ah, OK, good to know, and that gives more options...

...but what about all these 'older' scopes on eBay (inc Pecars) that seem to have the original mounts welded (?) on...can they be removed and then conventional mounts be used?

[dromia]

I'd pass on any scope with a fixed mounting for your application.

[Dougan]

OK, .

[shotgun sam]

Maggot

I have a SMLE (1917) that I have a non gunsmith scope mount and scope on it.

It is set up like that for my son so He can shoot my SMLE or His inheritance as He calls it, my son is registered blind the advantage of this setup is I can take the mount off and use it and put it on when he uses it.

I take it in these circumstances you will approve of a scope on an old battle rifle?

If you knew me you would know exactly what my answer to that would be.....

My comments are aimed at the plethora of lazy b****** that cant be bothered to put the time in or want to fool themselves they are a good shot.

People half my age in good health that all think they are Harry Furness and believe getting a V bull on a tin hat target with a scope and a bipod is a genuine achievement and tell everyone so.....right until they realise the rest are doing it with irons.

Not genuinely infirm or disabled folk...but I think you knew that tesnews

John and I share a long standing joke where I bitch at TR shooters and people abusing battle rifles (any model, I don't care) and he takes the p*** out of me generally and has a pop at Fclass.

Turns out he was right and I sold my Fclass kit

So no, while I would personally prefer to do my damndest to be true to myself and the rifles I attempt to shoot, I have no beef whatsoever with people quietly enjoying their sport, particularly if it means they would not otherwise be able to do so.

So good luck to you and your nipper, if I am about and he wants to shoot something else he can shoot my old heap.

Walts on the other hand should be spatchcocked and put under a grill :55:

Maggot I thought under the circumstances you would approve my son can put most of the shots resting his elbows on a 200 metre mcqueens target he will never win any of the club competitions but the club secretary has commented that he shots better than some of the other members.
He enjoys his shooting whether rifles shotguns and air guns.
As for me iron sights were all we had as youngsters so it is a bit of nostalgia.

Sam

[Dougan]

Well I found the perfect scope - a 1950s Pecar 4-10 x 45, with 1" tube (so easy to mount) and a fine cross-hair...would really suit the rifle...

...unfortunately it was an old link, and the scope is long gone

But I am sold on the idea; so the plan now is to just buy some thing cheap and cheerful (which I might later put on my Ruger, which currently has a cheap and quite crap scope on it) to be able to start shooting the new rifle, while we wait for the right period scope to come up...

...also all this looking at scopes has made me appreciate why shooters can be willing to pay so much for a decent scope.

Thanks all for the help on this one :cheers: